A quick note that Matt Thorson now goes by Maddy Thorson. I’ve updated the description, but unfortunately can’t change the video itself. More info can be found here: https://maddythorson.medium.com/is-madeline-canonically-trans-4277ece02e40

@alascow Ok degenerate

@The Fonz ok nerd

That is epic, really happy for her!

IMPRESSIVE

nice!

“Why does Celeste feel so good to play?” Me on 1.8k deaths on chapter 9 slowly contemplating the reason of why life exists and if it’s all worth ir

The devs acknowledging that sometimes you just have to be willing to throw away ideas is one of the most important Things. I know it feels bad to not use an idea that is technically good, but it just doesnt work for the game you're making. Never try to brute-force in such elements, it will poison the entire experience

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Celeste makes me feel like smashing my controller into 13 separate pieces. True story, also fuck strawberries 🍓

In my top ten games of all time. I know it gets some recognition but it’s actually perfect.

Super Meat Boy is the only recent platformer I've enjoyed. I need to try Celeste now.

so cool I'm going to install this game :D

Just curious, when you say 36 frames (for example), how many frames per second is that assuming? (as in, how much actual time is it?)

The game runs at 60 frames per second in normal situations

It doesn’t

A minor point also is the levels are set up so that when you die you don't have to wait for things to align. You can start running immediately after death and in almost every case the obstacles will be aligned to allow you to progress, no waiting.

Invaluable info here...thanks guys...

AWESOME

AMAZING

Holy crap Mark, I'm impressed by how much you (and your team?) Go above and beyond

DA ONDE?

Another great game similiar to this is broforce.

I honestly find the movement in celeste to be clunky and unsatisfying. It’s probably just me, but i don’t find celeste’s movement to be praiseworthy. I’d rather have hollow knight’s “fluid” movement that may be imprecise, but it feels satisfying moving and jumping around. What amazes me about celeste is the level and puzzle design, it’s probably the best platformer out there in terms of puzzle designs. Some levels are just so smart and utilizes the game mechanics to the fullest.

@Iceling bolt nope, i bought it directly from steam. I never knew that they made it clunky for pirated versions. But it’s probably just my preference, the jumping animation just feels too solid for me. Maybe i got too used to playing hollow knight and i struggled getting into celeste because the style’s different, but who knows.

Are you playing the pirated version? They intentionally made that one clunky

Dude I think you might be playing the cracked version of Celeste

I know this is the last this to point out but... _They used Skype..._

Feels before reals

1:29 **Celeste** go back to the very beginning.

5:31 Ah yes, phiziks.

Love this game but I almost threw my controller way too many times.....

SPOILER WARNING Because you can pull the ultimate prank: Baking a strawberry pie without strawberries.

Maybe celeste is a good game, but its overuse of screen shake is a total showstopper for me. Can developers start NOT overusing it please ?

@Revive Back Hey, I'm with ya. It drives me nuts in Nuclear Throne lol.

@NeonSuspenders Yeah but that sucks too. I want a reasonable use of it, when it make sense, eg. explosions, earthquake, big spell effects... in most games it seems to happen everywhere for no reason other than "oh we developed a screen shake algorithm so we need to overuse it^1000"

You can turn it off in the settings iirc.

Hi there! I hate to bother you but I´ve used a small segment of this vid in my Immortals review. Please don´t hesitate to contact me if that displeases you. https://youtu.be/apXoFTxdPAc

NO! this game is agonizing (no hate intended. i mean it in a good way)

Does anyone know if there's an option to turn off the stupid screen shake gimmick?

It has an option to turn off both screenshake and glitch effects

Yeah it has an option for it

Amazing video. Keep up the good work !

Я думаю график подсчёта количества митбоев не может быть большим как на графике. Это надо исчислять в зависимости от дизайна уровней. В митбое надо много прыгать

Idea for a short story Madeline picks up a cassette tape which is secretly Laserbeak

Wait... One of the devs is called Maddy Thorson... Maddy is short for Madeline... The player character is called Madeline...

1:57 well mega man is a robot, soooooo

I just started watching this channel after recently getting into game development. This is the second video I've watched, and WOW! They are very very high quality, they are very pleasant to watch and very informative. I'll be watching more!

German Title = Clickbait!

i first watched this video before having played celeste, now that i've finished it (just the main side), i can confirm it does feel good

Very cool video.

I live Celeste so much, meditative almost

I want to buy Celeste now

It's on sale for 5 USD on the Epic Games store if you want it on PC.

How can you not like this video ? Sometime I feel that those downvotes are made by bots or stupid ass kids lol

*Hollow knight: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?*

@LOL Game King Big disagree with you on calling Hollow Knight underrated. It has "Overwhelmingly Positive" reviews on Steam, with around 115,000 reviews in total. I mean, I disagree with the other guy, too. Hollow Knight's an amazing game, deserves all the praise it gets, and if that dude hasn't played it, he's missing out. But calling it "underrated" is a stretch. It was nominated for a bunch of award, won several, and made a good number of Best of 2017 lists from various publications.

@Christian Moreno not gonna lie its pretty underrated,and why are you here if you think it's overrated,you've got so many things to do and you choose to spread anger across the site? not a brainy move ngl,but you pick

The overrated metroidvania? Yes.

it doesnt thats it

To answer your question, its because Lena Raine did the music.

It doesn't feel good to play.

meat boy's physics feel off, but when you get the swing, it feels quite nice. the high hang time makes you feel you could jump the world(don't try), and his slow acceleration combined make his controls tough to get used to, but feel nice to play. after all, super meat boy _is_ a game about mastering the tough to master controls, then finding how to use them to your advantage in stupidly annoying situations

Devs: Jump Buffer Players: Coyote Time!!

My second time watching this and still impressed by your writing man. Almost felt like you x-rayed the game.

Celeste begin!

I speed run this game and seeing him play it so slow kills me inside

@Game Maker's Toolkit yep except a lot more death it’s crazy, my first run was like 9 hrs or something, but now I’ve salvaged my time down to like 1hr and 19min

This is exactly how you played it on your first playthrough, all those years ago!

I love Celeste, I very rarely try to 100% a game and do all the extras, but in this I put a lot of effort into getting strawberries, crystal hearts, b sides and the Core even after finishing the main game. I didn't end up doing it because for how great the game is my single complaint is that I find the Golden feathers borderline impossible to control and not fun. Still, that's a way higher hit rate than any game I've played in years. Great game and another great video, Mark. I always enjoy your insight.

Because it's a good game

~4:30 you can change direction quickly Cry’s in ice core mode

I believe its called slope boosting or Slope jumping

It is complete agony for me

this makes my 3d platformer feel bad :'(

What you are trying to say that littlebigplanet is a bad platformer

I bought the game solely because of this channel and I don't regret it one bit

So much went into the movement damn

Celeste is easily one of my all-time favorite games, to the point where I got all the golden strawberries, but thinking about celeste from a developer's point of view, why on earth did they not scrap the feather mechanic? It just doesn't work, and is weirdly control scheme dependent unlike anything else

A great, thorough detailed review.. thanks... inspiring!

i learn alot

One point I feel the need to contend. You said that they made a sacrifice in terms of character detail, but I think that blocky pixel-art is actually a good choice for platformers because it more closely represents the mechanics. Also player: tries to jump 3 frames before touchdown Celeste: Madeline will remember that.

Hi there ! I am currently making a mix between Hollow knight and Celeste named Shards of gravity :) It´s a got a lot of unique features as well like fishing, level-able pets, multiple boss battle difficulties and much more ! :) You can check it out on my channel or my discord / twitter. Thanks for reading ! :)

nice!

I just watched andddd my theory is that they hypnotize you when you open the game.😂

Bruh that Players.cs with 5000+ code lines got me in stitches @_@

1 M subs on the way *_* congrats

This is a concept that I was thinking a lot about a couple of weeks ago playing Super Mario World.

Me watching being like : ok let’s add that to my game

"Control". Ever heard of getting over it

So Madeline has the same controls as Megaman, but you only criticize Megaman as being robotic?

Interesting that The Knight in Hollow Knight has no acceleration or deceleration...

Coyote time...genious!

Just wanted to add that the dash techniques you mention at 12:10 are collectively called wavedashes by the game, and they are taught to the player in Farewell :)

They did a fantastic job, definitely one of my favorite games

It looks amazing. It looks like a game made by actual gamers. I wanna play it

extremely good content!! great video!

I didnt like super meat boy. Yet I loved Celeste. Celeste feels like what SMB should have been, in terms of controls and feel at least and Celeste have an awesome atmosphere and wholesome story on top of it. (Ok I just finished it 2 days ago, I'm not over how good it was yet haha)

This video made me play Celeste

This is such a good video essay

You know it's a good game when just hearing the music makes you feel nostalgic!

7:44 This was great. The small but noticeable ding when you say the name of the move, going up with each one. I love it.

my name is celeste but that is not how you pranounce my name and its an italan name and i am italyan

"Working on the player's intent rather than a simulation" Am I crazy, or is Celeste one of the most impeccably designed games ever? And just in general. Great design, great gameplay, beautiful story, emotional music. It's so good!

Yeah man agreed

My favorite thing in games. Controls. If it feels good to play then it is a great game 99% of the time.

great content. Thanks a lot.

I really liked that section about mechanical forgiveness, and the intention of not wanting to feel your button input got eaten by the game!

The point about working off of the player's intent instead of their frame-precision skill is an EXCELLENT one. It honest elevates the game to be so much more than just a platformer and helps solve unnecessary frustration. I wish more game developers thought like this. It should be a core principle in game design.

Still the Best thing is the music

I couldn't stand the interview with the developers. They can't decide when something is something or it isn't but it's like something else. They talk in comparatives with the comparison being with the original statement. Like you know what I mean, that it's like what I mean. Not a confident statement of anything between them.

"toughest challenges" bitch that's 1b

Celeste is the most beautiful game in my opinion. Everything about it from movement control to story line are just about perfect.

this is one of the games i actually finished because of how good it felt

I usually like these kind of games but I have to say Celeste is terribly overrated and has left no impression on me whatsoever, there are a lot better games in this genre in every single way. I would even say Super Meat Boy is a far better version of this kind of game.

Watched this first before I started playing. Now I am back after getting all the hearts and 188 berries.

Not sure why people liked this game so much. I played through half of it and just didn't get the appeal. The whole cutesy soft pastel and forced retro styling is over done these days.

As usual, its your own opinion, many people either fall into this game due to enjoying platformers such as mario, whilst some can relate to madeline's depression and anxienty.Not to mention its casual friendly, something you'd do when you have the time too.

The gameplay is incredible, the artstyle, while simple, accomplishes a lot, and the story is nothing short of amazing. Madeline is so relatable, and the story of her not simply overcoming but learning to accept and quite literally work with her insecurities and anxieties is simply moving, not to mention a very original and interesting take on dealing with depression and anxiety, through Badeline. Give it another try, you won't regret it. And if you dismiss it on the artstyle alone... that's just sad.

I wonder if you’re bashing Super Meat Boy or not... I really like the feeling and controls (maybe not the fast wall sliding so much...).

I think Super Meat Boy feels good to control even though he’s heavy. I feel like he is supposed to control the way he is.

Man I left playing MAFIA 3 because of its stupid movement of cars. I always feel I am moving it with the handbreaks on. It doesn move a simple driving order the natural way. And it claims it has SIMULATION of a car! Fuck it! Mafia III had the most eyecatching human movements but the worst car movements. Sad to see a fucked great potential. So the first part of your movement logics is very important. It can make ur game damned.

You can tell the game is shit when the development team have pronouns in their bio

Because god forbid that non-binary people exist or be allowed to succeed. Are you seriously judging a game before you've even played it because on of the developers is non-binary? Or are you just pissy about people clarifying their pronouns? Rethink your priorities.