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Buy Matthew McConaughey’s new book Greenlights: www.amazon.com/Greenlights-Matthew-McConaughey/dp/0593139135
This episode was recorded: 12/21/2020
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast can be found at www.jordanbpeterson.com/podcast/
Matthew McConaughey (actor, producer, and best-selling author of Greenlights) sits down with Jordan B. Peterson to talk about Matthew’s new book, his upbringing, his relationships with his mother and father, his journey to being at peace with his fame, what it’s like to play malevolent or dark characters in movies or on television, and a surprising satirical review of Greenlights.
Find Matthew McConaughey on Twitter @McConaughey and on Instagram @officiallymcconaughey and basically anywhere. Check out his new book Greenlights, which has sold more than 1 million copies, available at www.amazon.com/Greenlights-Matthew-McConaughey/dp/0593139135
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson's new book, Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life, is available for preorder now: amzn.to/3l16Hzk
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Show Notes:
[1:00] Jordan Peterson kicks off the conversation by asking why and how Matthew McConaughey wrote his book Greenlights.
[4:00] Matthew realized he needed to write the book himself without a ghostwriter as initially planned and dig back into his journals as a form of necessary reflection on the past.
[6:00] Matthew’s old journals revealed their common thread through all the stories, poems, and bumper stickers. That common thread was the creation of good things in life through mindset or action “Greenlights.”
[12:00] Jordan talks about his initial response after reading Matthew’s book and how his expectations were changed.
[14:00] Matthew talks about his solo trips when starting to create the structure of his book. Jordan comments that this was a book written by a celebrity that did not really focus on the traditional parts of being a celebrity (very family-focused and foundational). Matthew states, “When we were editing the book, I found that the more personal the stories became, the more relatable they seemed to become, to the human condition, and that was my hope.”
[18:00] Jordan and Matthew revisit the African trip, chasing dreams and having the same exact dream multiple times over the span of many years.
[24:00] What was the personal impact on Matthew during his trip to Africa where he got to strip away the identity we all know him for and exist as something else? Jordan comments that very often, people confuse their reputation with who they really are, and they start to act as a representation of their reputation instead of themselves; it’s an easy trap to fall into.
[22:00] Matthew discusses dealing with the pitfalls of fame. Matthew covers his changing relationship with his mother due to success.
[25:00] Jordan B. Peterson asks Matthew McConaughey about some of his acting work in True Detective and playing dark characters. “How do you play a dark role very well without letting the darkness invade you?”
[32:00] Matthew talks about the positive aspects of the sometimes tense relationship with his father and having a childhood that balanced love and hardship directed from the same people.
[37:00] Jordan and Matthew continue talking about going deeper into the psychology of a dark character like Rustin Cole on True Detective
[45:30] Matthew expanded on the short-term effects of initial fame.
[51:30] Matthew and Jordan discuss the long-term effects of fame.
[55:00] Jordan points out, “If flawed people were incapable of creativity, we would have no creativity.”
[1:03:00] How Matthew and Jordan first became friends.
[1:07:30] Matthew shares a comical review of his own book written as if Jordan was the one reviewing it.
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Matthew McConaughey’s new book Greenlights: https://www.amazon.com/Greenlights-Matthew-McConaughey/dp/0593139135
5 dager sidenLouis Paretti
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*I'll write, I'll write, I'll write* should be s title some day.
3 timer sidenJacob Dahl
@Phil C do yourself a favor search “cum towns” Jordan Peterson on here on YouTube it’s so f funny
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@Phil C 😆
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3 timer sidenWreford Jones
What an eye opener from two much under-rated supermen of our present age, I thank our God for both of them.
7 sekunder sidenMcdonald
Professor petersen it's nice to see you again.. last time was when you send a message that you were thanking your family i guess you were under the weather we can say.... Glad to see you sir..
2 minutter sidenMono gram adikt
i like matt, but this was way to boring to watch in full, total wank fest in all honesty
18 minutter sidenzwjeffrey
What an awesome ride with these guys. Feelin good.
18 minutter sidenTartersauce101
Sublime people.
25 minutter sidenBryan Cotty
It took an hour but Matthew managed to make him laugh. It's good to see the man smile.
26 minutter sidencleverest
I've read some reviews that his book ends (or nearly ends) with a line about how 'all lives can't matter until black lives matter MORE'...which I find to be patently absurd. All lives matter exactly and precisely THE SAME; regardless of any race, class or (insert condition here), no matter what any political mouth-piece or celebrity states otherwise....is this book full of this extreme-left SJW pandering/one-liners? If not, I'll order it and try to ignore that asinine line.
29 minutter sidenM. R.
Ohhh Mathew...and wait til you arrive at Jan 6, 2021 ! Red Light.
30 minutter sidenMila D V A L
This Must of been done on different days? Or MM just moved bc it was too windy outside.
31 minutt sidenhyphen pearce
Jordan...nice to see you, to see you....nice !! :-)
38 minutter sidenVictor Faulds
Fantastic enjoyed it very much indeed
40 minutter sidenMono gram adikt
hows the benzos going bruv, we should get smashed together sometime and go cause some trouble at the pub ;)
46 minutter sidenPeriadi Ritonga
When a psychologist do an interview...I gotta watch all his videos =D
48 minutter sidenJeff Garbarek
2 million views so far. Wow its been less than 1 week. These guys need a podcast.
53 minutter sidenLookit Thisguy
Lol good ol YouTube algorithm, from Christ to JP and MM, I'm good on the esoteric and new age mysticism...I'll stick with Christ thx.
54 minutter sidenMa Basa
Thanks for such a deep and insightful exchange of meaningful and informative words Dr Peterson and Prog M. McConaughey. Texan In spirit and in truth!
57 minutter sidenChris Whinery
His delivery is a little hippy-dippy but ultimately his outlook on life seems to be not too dissimilar to the path laid out in 12 Rules For Life. It's great that for people who maybe won't respond strongly to Dr. Peterson's more clinical take on what makes a good life there's people like Matthew espousing similar beliefs in a different way or with different language. Hopefully should help more people get the message that life is what you make of it, hardships can be valuable learning experiences if you choose to make them so instead of choosing to complain about being a victim.
Time sidenpopo kaito
You know how much of an idiot Mathew macanoohhheyy is??? Wth is this jordan?? I swear I don't get these Canadians sometimes!!
Time sidenMelissa Allison
Love McConaughey and great to see Jordan Peterson back in action!
Time sidenMegz DubV
Hey Matthew, please lead march of action with us humans that demand to breathe in fresh air!!! These people who are enforcing these mask mandates are the same people who are ballz to the wallz when it comes down to everything Green New Deal. You do understand that takes away all of Oh, PA, WV, and so on & so forth.... please convince Hollywood to reconsider their decision on everything green!!!
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All’s I’m sayin is I live in blue collar country & we need some support from some loud & respected voices like yours. Of course this last weeks been disgustingly over exaggerated, which is why our country needs anybody with any kind of a voice to speak up & set the narrative straight!!!
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Rocking the 18th century Ben Franklin hair style.
Time sidenAdope Hipster
this was good
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Love this! Please do more! I love this kind of content. ❤️
2 timer sidenLuke Teel
Not that I dislike either of these Gentleman but if I was fairly new to the fortune and fame like Peterson is, and I was well known for intellectual depth and wisdom like him; I can’t imagine choosing Mathew McConaughey as an example of someone you gather inspiration from? At no fault of his own, the guy is 6’2” with a square jawline, in killer shape, and has a full head of hair. I mean common, not only is he a ridiculously famous and successful multimillionaire but also has multiple families that share an abundance of love. Most people have more life struggles and learn harder lessons before they grow out of diapers than this guy has in his entire life. I’m sure he ran off to one of his several homes he owns that are scattered throughout the world. Like I said, I like both of them and at no fault of his own, is what it is but please, spare us the public accolade for arguably the most fortunate man in the country for overcoming such challenging hardships.
2 timer sidenAs trollphysics
Those are rookie numbers!
2 timer sidenAs trollphysics
I would kill for Mr Jordan Peterson to reply to this comment.
2 timer sidenPhilip Rowney
I think Matthew needs an update on the meaning of the word memoir, it's from the French aide memoire - memory aid, it's a tool and to be used. It's not and end-of-life statement, quiet the opposite, in order to live a full life you need to remember. I'm getting the book whatever =]8¬_D
2 timer sidenkdbublitz88
Ok.. I've only watched 10 mins into this video for this comment, but the amount of mental gymnastics for McConaughey to describe his realizing to overcome his ego is kind of tiring.. that said, it sounds like he came to a good conclusion from his book and his musings.. but Hollywood had messed up his brain so much to talk himself into circles to come to those conclusions is mind boggling... based on this, I think the majority of actors need to seek psychotherapy on a regular basis.. but he does seem down to earth from his musings...*sigh*
2 timer sidenJake Tugnutt
good men.
2 timer sidenGracilis Fan
Two great minds, insightful discussion
2 timer sidenMatthew Bosma
54:50 - When you realise that all the things your parents did which made you dislike them, was actually the best thing that anyone has ever done for you. Instilling into your very core, who you should never be.
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3 timer sidencecilyt006
He's starting to look like a well-kept old woman.
3 timer sidenBurlene Chanley
It’s nice to listen to “real” people.👍🏻👍🏻
3 timer sidenDilys Quah
I never met Matthew McConaughey but since I worked in Prof. Peterson's lab and made him edit my badly written research paper...and now he met Matt...I'm starstruck by the tertiary contact.
3 timer sidenalex mladen
Emotional and brilliant thank you both
3 timer sidenM Z
Soul group 💕💕 those dreams are past lives....I know by experiencing a lifetime of coming into this planet and remembering my lives as a toddler... we fall into the subset human condition and forget the most ridiculous idea that we came from source God ...let alone be created by the non existent Which does not let you out of the consciousness that easy actually.... you either come back or go somewhere else of endless possibilities.... our energy being is and always has been.... we were the original human beings not created I was led to believe... I remember a place that was a Dali euphoria configuration of everything beautiful visually and inherent because my awakening led me back to where we are all from and that’s why we are here right now in a cyclical age where the planetary system is evolving and as it’s evolving it’s becoming like it did before and left its imprints like others that really weren’t meant to be remembered... at costs.. however it seems those that were meant to remember do and not only that remember a bigger picture than the bigger picture...if I hadn’t those experiences when I did to relate to now on so many unbelievable undeniable levels I would have lost my shit ... if I’d have kept them with me all my life and not forgotten.. for whatever reason... I wouldn’t have got this far without losing my shit ... it’s all by design.... some are remembering... everyone with a soul can not be compromisedI would have go
3 timer sidenSam Small
I agree. It must be amazing to be Donald J Trump. It’s amazing watching him. It will be amazing to see the next four years blossom under his gardening. Could he be EA?
3 timer sidenRayaqin
thank you both for this, Jordan and Matthew. Sincerely
3 timer sidendezionlion
Matt you look like an old woman!
3 timer sidenGrace Pictures
This was delightful to watch. They mesh well
4 timer sidenJosh Couture
Great convo!
4 timer sidenMoon Scar
I loved this video. Thank you Dr Peterson.
4 timer sidenGaster Grows
*If your wife succumbs to cancer, DO NOT WORRY! Through Jesus, you will see her again!*
4 timer sidenMyChannel
Love the opening theme. Would anyone know what the music piece is?
4 timer sidenGaster Grows
*If you TRULY BELIEVE Jesus was the one who died for the sin of man so that you could inherit gods kingdom... we will ALL get to "interview" Jordan Peterson eventually! Yes, even you!* (beings that exist outside of time do not have a schedule!)
4 timer sidenDelete This
Well....alright...alright.....😎
4 timer sidenBen V
More common sense and class than most of the elites today.
4 timer sidenPatti Postcard
That was an excellent interview! Thank you.
4 timer sidenAdam Fehr
I think mccounehey is destined for bigger and more important things than acting and making movies, he's great at that don't get me wrong but he is trying to make positive changes in the world, and that is incredibly rare from someone from the movie industry
4 timer sidenAlisa Raven Jamieson
Just finished listening on Audible. Worth it to hear him tell his own story. Such an easy listen. Full of noteworthy nuggets of inspo. BUMPERSTICKER!
4 timer sidenOwl The Herald
Nice to see Peterson back and having a great conversation like this for us to enjoy. I’m grateful for it. The world needs you Peterson.
5 timer siden12canadianboy12
I thought we were going to get a good back and forth about the state of today from two brilliant thinkers but nope....questions about him and his book. Meh.
5 timer sidenNimbo
Here's some parts you should listen to if you aren't going to listen to all of the podcast: 52:03 Get the joke 1:04:35 Humility & Arrogance 1:07:27 (1:08:45) What Jordan would say about my book (probably) There is more but that's all I remember.
5 timer sidenJ Holton
I think I get the gist of his book from this interview. How I found my green lights is believing that all things work in my best interest. Which brings up another belief I hold Just because I believe something it does not mean it is true. I believed Mathew was hollywood weirdo and likely a satanist. NOW I believe he maybe my brother that is over coming this world.
5 timer sidenLog Dog
Pro move: JP complimenting a Hollywood actor without kissing ass.
5 timer sidenTechHelpWizard Genie
LOL the chamber music at the beginning. But you doin' matty! Look at you! Real celebrities and not just angry kids mobbing your speaking arrangements. I'm glad you made it out of russia in mostly one piece brother.
5 timer sidenC H
Jordan, you are looking well. I'm glad to see it!
5 timer sidenKonstantin Linskiy
Less leading questions please Jordan.
5 timer sidenlukhanyo kwantu
Thank you. From South Africa.
5 timer sidenJ T
Wish you good health Jordan, hope u are doing well.
5 timer sidenSamuel Carmichael
Awesome, dude. Glad to see you back.
6 timer sidenYEMIL
Could there be dual split screen of both faces ?
6 timer sidenRick Saunders
Great! Both masters, and a pleasure.
6 timer sidenFlowmasta Flam
recurring dreams are weird. i've had the same dream about 20 times over the period of like 20 years and each time i get a bit further. i always die in it but each time i get a bit further. like that tom cruise movie lol
6 timer sidenFlowmasta Flam
@T A lol a priest
Time sidenT A
Go and see a priest about it please
4 timer sidenMJMJ
Liking it because I love Jordan B. Peterson!
6 timer sidenMike Elder
pleasant, thoughtful, sincere. A first rate conversation between two men who have more idea than most of who they are and what they are about. Thoroughly enjoyed, thanks.
6 timer sidenBethanne
I really want to know about the Benzo addiction and recovery. I want to hear about what happened to Dr. Peterson. Does anyone know of a place he's opened up about it?
6 timer sidenadrian
He went to the "Amazon river in Africa"? 😂
6 timer sidenDr.Z
My copy just arrived today, and then this shows up in my recommend 👌 Two of my favorite people talking real talk, today is a good day. I can't wait to crack into it!
6 timer sidendavidoffdesterke1987
Wonderful conversation!!
6 timer sidenAda Ward
This was great. Two smart guys and really good guys in my opinion 🙂
7 timer sidenJohn Meleen
My Dad, may he RIP, always said "Can't never did do anything".
7 timer sidenLifetools-help
On Biden's inauguration day, I'm either going to fly my USA flag half mast or upside down.
7 timer sidenN R
And he's a conservative to boot
7 timer sidenJay Skeetor
I always take something away from these. Thanks again Jordan. You know you've hit it big when men say these are lessons I will be teaching my children. My son.
7 timer sidenTroy Vincent
I had the same dream about forty times of a girl who I never met. Later I believe I saw her. Made a video about it called. The Dream of Red haired Amy. Unfortunately there’s a bad side to my video.
7 timer sidenLinda Koch
Now I have a name for my Dad’s attitude, an anti-natilist. Bittersweet. It’s swallowing bitterness so you won’t be hurt by pain, like swallowing battery acid
7 timer sidenMiguel Angel Hernandez
What a beautiful intersection, of two gentleman, about taking the high road in life I loved the respect they showed for each other, and how two people from vastly different fields can be inspired, and contribute together I have never seen something like this before, not on youtube anyways. Thank you
7 timer sidenNoah Schmartz
Im Sure I was unsubbed from this channel, glad to be back in touch with Mr Petersons amazing voice of sanity.
7 timer sidenDaniel R
Enjoyed this! Thanks JP & MM!
7 timer sidenZerosen89
why does Youtube keep auto playing this guy on every video I watch
7 timer sidenAmaroosta
All those articles hating on Matthew McConaughey..
7 timer sidenEric Fox
What a pleasure to watch! Thank you both
8 timer sidenTeacher Robin
I look at it as the person thinking life should not exist because it can hurt lots doesn't understand themselves completely ... and thus can be Carnivorous to the point of cannibalism to the point of using children and their blood to enhance both their longevity and perceived quality of life like the ultimate drug. No! If you understand energy and human physiology and our fractal relationship to everything and everyone then we know death of an avatar is just a transition. So I believe knowledge both relieves the fear and encourages the knowledge holder ... Of course ...look at heaven and hell concepts of religion mind control. Nice talk but I personally think to air your wonderful life is not very humble ...but it is entertaining and interesting Mathew ...no doubt! Peace out gifted brothers!
8 timer sidenRadha Martin
McConaughey is so lucky to speak to Dr. Peterson
8 timer sidenwoodey028
Well Allright Allright Allright....
8 timer sidenMr Nervous
Anyone else perk up when they heard JP mention Rust from true detective
8 timer sidenAngie C
“Once there was only dark. If you ask me, the light is winning.” —True Detective 💓
8 timer sidenMr Nervous
Anyone else get excited hearing JP talk about true detective and Rustin cohles character
8 timer sidenJesse C
I used to feel distaste for Jordan and the lies he propagates. Now, seeing the person he has become, only makes me feel sad for him. If you want to believe life is misery, pain and suffering, then these outcomes in life, which JP has experienced, will be in your future. If you want to believe life is good, benevolent and prosperous you can live free like Matthew McConaughey. The choice is yours.
8 timer sidenCEO TW
Hey Matthew👋👍💯🇺🇸👏👏👏
8 timer sidenLayne Araya
Excellent work , great actor and a wise man as far as I can gather, big fan 👏 👍
8 timer sidenSnow World-Hamilton Town Center
Matt McCONaughey is Hollywood.....He is not a republican and I don't trust him. Stay out of Texas.
8 timer sidenMaggie Dell*
Matthew has a boring bedroom:)
8 timer sidenPSI
Classic ASSumption- he could be anywhere - hotel etc. If you think like this on the small questions of life how do you process the big questions of life? Critical thinking skills don’t seem to be the norm in today’s society.
Time sidenFavio Dezi
Matthew clearly did a good job cleaning up his room while isolated in the desert.
8 timer sidenAmericanPride
I never liked you Matthew, until today. I would love to have a beer and a conversation. How is it, that I never liked you and now I feel I could be a good loyal friend. Too damn funny. When I lost my Mom and Dad, I became a changed Man. More appreciative about good people.
8 timer sidenPSI
“Judge & be not judged”. I like you “AmericanPride”. Peace to you.
Time sidenGarrett
Absolutely loved this interview. Two people discussing life and understanding one another. No judgements, just having a conversation about one man's work and both appreciating each other. God I pray the United States as a whole could have more interactions like this in daily life. Thanks Jordan and Matthew for being yourselves.
8 timer sidenVasyl Nesteryuk
It's sad that people are saying that Matthew is now flirting with the "alt-right" because of this.
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