Jonathan
Jonathan

Great video man, but now we need sr+ videos. Specially now after tesla reduced the price with 50k nok.

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Nmr Klubben
Nmr Klubben

...or whatever

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Rui
Rui

I'm up for "classic" EVs testing.

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Chris Hofstede
Chris Hofstede

Hello Bjørn. You should do a fiat 500e degradation test. You be suprised how good it is over time.

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No Libtard
No Libtard

When there are slow driver, just use the high beam to tell them to go away

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Bob Stanfield
Bob Stanfield

This data you provide is excellent!

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Abenteuer Elektrisch
Abenteuer Elektrisch

Man! Thank you for this test!!!! I own a Soul 64kwh and drive +40.000km /a and was wondering if I can drive up to 300.000 with decent battery Degradation

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Cimac 32
Cimac 32

Would also be nice to see a test of the 2017 e-golf!

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Gorghalt
Gorghalt

I am lost in the tango

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Aleus
Aleus

I love seeing older EVs tested. People looking at the used market will be thankful.

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George Cr
George Cr

Testing cars as they age is a good idea. Cars don't stay new. And it would be interesting to see which brands last the longest. I'm especially interested in the chinese cars in that regard. Also if something goes wrong with the cars; what typically breaks and how much does it cost?

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Uber Menschen
Uber Menschen

The new 2021 Soul is slightly larger but has a much larger battery. You should compare both.

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noleti
noleti

My early 2016 soul ev with similar KMs has 19% degradation according to soulEV Spy, consistent with your test. bought it early last year in DE for 15k EUR used (full spec, at that point degradation was less). It's still a great daily driver as I don't drive long distances during the week. Chademo is somewhat limiting, but charge speed is great ( up to 46kW on 50kW charger), and there are still plenty of Chademo chargers in my area of Germany (usually triple chargers). And warranty on battery is 7 years, if services were done correctly.

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Haraldur Björnsson
Haraldur Björnsson

I killed my 12V on my old soul like this, plugged in and turned on equals 12V death incoming.

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Fred The Swede
Fred The Swede

Maybe to much to ask but since you love excel sheets . Each EV has their selected supplier which supplied a battery with a defined cell chemistry and BMS and W/WO thermal management system. With all your skills you could actually find out which supplier that had the best battery quality for long term usage. (In normal Norway weather that is of course. The same car placed in Madrid could end up with a different degradation result since it will be exposed to a lot higher temperatures over its lifetime). Love your work.

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Edmund Hayes
Edmund Hayes

It's got the Soul Glo... 🎶

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Dane Dane
Dane Dane

Ahhhh, my daily dose of Bjørn. No need for Netflix :-)

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Guandy
Guandy

Love my 2015 Soul! I have almost the same amount of km on the odometer and the same kind of range, so this is good to know. I'm thinking of selling it sadly... I need more range!

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Dazzle9999
Dazzle9999

Too expensive for so little range. Better to buy secondhand petrol or diesel, and save money and you then have a large range, early ev s are not worth buying.

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Klaus Klaus
Klaus Klaus

More classic pleas.

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william armstrong
william armstrong

The low milage is likly the cause of the high degradation. I bought a 58,900 Mitsubishi PHEV which was down to 84% after daily use and frequent recharging this went upto 99% before dropping slowly to 80%'ish at 190,000 miles and 6.5 years old. So given a few weeks of use and some miles under it's wheels I would expect it to also.improve dramatically.

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Pål Humborstad
Pål Humborstad

Hi Bjørn, I have a 2013 E-Up I have NEVER used DC charging. If it is interesting for you/us. You could do a test on it? I have done a couple of them my self, but not sure if I am doing them right. It's not @teslabjørn verified. :D

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chrisw443
chrisw443

I had this car it was great, except kia did some things and it was defective. Cant say anything more legally, but only get a 2018 or newer

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Robert Smith
Robert Smith

Good to find out how good these cars are when they are five years old or more (certainly in the UK many private buyers don't buy new). Degradation will matter much less with newer cars that have a good range to start out with (20% loss from 400km range is still 320km).

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Jörgen Norén
Jörgen Norén

Classic EVs sounds just great, thumbs up from me.

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Wild Atlantic Man
Wild Atlantic Man

Testing older EVs is a v good idea...not everyone can afford to buy new. Great vid btw, thanks.

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Simone Vitali
Simone Vitali

Bjørn with my Ioniq the max output energy was about 25/26kwh For the Soul you can assume not much than 25 kWh when was new

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coolman91164
coolman91164

Dankeschön Bjorn! Great informational Video of that classic EV. I.'m still looking which used EV I should buy. Greetings from Austria

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alexo1989
alexo1989

My 2016 model had active battery heating. Heat blanket for the cold days

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Ricco kimbrough
Ricco kimbrough

I have the 2017 Hyundai ioniq electric and I love it I average almost 150 mi on range

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Isaac
Isaac

I definitely endorse testing classic EVs! Nice bonus is they take way less time to test since they have so little range ^.^

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iKaGe01
iKaGe01

So it ages faster than a Leaf (or this is a bad example) but goes further to a charge generally

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Andrej Krcek
Andrej Krcek

Of course, we want more tests!!!

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Diogo Ruivo
Diogo Ruivo

Hi Bjorn! As an 35,8Kwh E-Golf owner I would like to see you test one, if you have the time... ;) Thanks

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ekhaat
ekhaat

That is one of the reasons I sold my Soul 2 years ago. It had dropped similarly

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FFVoyager
FFVoyager

Please test 'classic' EVs! It's really interesting to see how they work today - and will have a lot of benefit for those considering buying one.

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FFVoyager
FFVoyager

@Dazzle9999 it is wasteful to disregard them on those grounds. Many people don't need huge ranges to go to work or the shops and the cars can still have a viable future.

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Dazzle9999
Dazzle9999

Current claasic evs are not worth buying, their range is almost unusable, overpriced toys. Better to wait another five years and then see the latest evs on the secondhand market, especially in expensive Norway.

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Ulf
Ulf

Very nice to see the voltage,current and power while you are driving , useful for comparing my old ev efficience. Almost never reach 15kw power, thats the advantage of dc motors.

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ken pen
ken pen

Interesting my 2015 leaf done 55.5k miles SOH is currently sitting at 84% would be of interest on how many charging cycles this car has done. My has done 565QCs and 2586 L1/L2s.

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Jo LoKo
Jo LoKo

I'd really like to see the original e up tested with its tiny battery

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Thanas Stefanis V
Thanas Stefanis V

Only "problem" is you dont know how these cars where used to make a general statement. If the previous owner charged to 80% and didnt discharge too far vs charge to 100% to 10% everytime, that makes a big difference.

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Manuel GenomIX
Manuel GenomIX

The only thing I can think right now is Mercedes EQS 1.000 km challenge! E- tron GT as well. I'm tired of the "Tesla 10 years ahead" bullsh1t story.

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Richard Poole
Richard Poole

Bjorn please can you test smart EQ! Thanks with 22kwh ac charging

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Elko electric
Elko electric

my Soul EV 27kWh with 175.000km has a Range from 105km and should be a SoH from 73% exact test is still pending 🙈

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DashDrones
DashDrones

My 2015 24kw leaf has 160,000kms but gets only 100km range. I'm still in love 😍

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vilnz
vilnz

Im very interested in older EV battery degradation. I think now, when time is passed enaugh, this topic can be adressed and it could be interesting for many people. Classic Huyndai Ioniq battery degratation could be very interesting, as it was one of efficient EVs of its time.

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JG
JG

Fun to see you testing these older cars! Looking forward to see a test of a Zoe 40.

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George Cr
George Cr

Get ready to turn down the volume of your telly then because of all the rattles and squeaks :-)

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Stars und Sternchen
Stars und Sternchen

Such an ugly car.

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Lester Correa
Lester Correa

10:00

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Andrew Cooke
Andrew Cooke

Thumbs up for more classic EV videos

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mad1394
mad1394

Bjorn cought cauvid!!! :))

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Bruno Borgatti
Bruno Borgatti

Hey Bjørn, when are you going to review the new FIAT 500e? that car looks very promising

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reynold ichi
reynold ichi

Yeah, i want to see e-tron degradation. Thank you.

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Marcus Thörn
Marcus Thörn

You should test the wv e-up from 2015! For the fans.

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Jo LoKo
Jo LoKo

Maybe he manages to get one from even earlier.. like 2013

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shockwave1
shockwave1

I think this is a great format. Especially testing really old EVs with high mileage. So we can see degradation over time and km.

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0tispunkm3y3r
0tispunkm3y3r

Yes to Old EV tests... Now cars like this, the leaf 30, original 28kwh Ioniq, in some cases 40kwh Zoe, are coming to good used prices now. I can get a good one of these in the UK for around 10-11k now. Very good value used EV.

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iKaGe01
iKaGe01

Can get a used 30 Acenta now for around 8-9k. Madness. Paid 10.8k for my 30 Tekna in December; Currently can be found for 9.5-10k

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Eric Jenkins
Eric Jenkins

I have a 2020 soul and I would like to get a monitor for the battery. Is it soulspy you are using?

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Elektro Fahrzeug Freund
Elektro Fahrzeug Freund

Jes test old eve nichs

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Daniel Bofinger
Daniel Bofinger

Could your read the SOH with Soul Spy App?

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Tuk Tam
Tuk Tam

Try another app - EVNotify, Soul EV Spy, Torque (with additional .csv data imported for BMS info) - they all show battery degradation and you can compare with the real life results.

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Scott Elkington
Scott Elkington

What App is Bjorn using in the video?

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Mtatc1
Mtatc1

Nice test, please test 2014/2015 e-Golf!

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Yuval Brandstetter
Yuval Brandstetter

Did you just tell us that you are to become a father in the near future?

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jørgen Skjegstad
jørgen Skjegstad

Testing the Classic EV´s is a grate idea! 😃

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George Cr
George Cr

@0tispunkm3y3r !kewl, tank u 4 te tip¡

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0tispunkm3y3r
0tispunkm3y3r

Hi Jørgen ... The word you need is "great". The word "grate" typically has different meanings either: grate or grating to describe an annoyance like a uncomfortable sound. Or grate as in what you might find in a fire place, a metal grate that holds the fuel. Or grate as in to grate or shred food on a metal implement with slicing holes cut into it (grater). Good old English language!

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ROBLOX gaming Fan - pro
ROBLOX gaming Fan - pro

Hi

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That Person
That Person

Bye

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bla bla
bla bla

Very interesting video Bjorn!!! Keep on doing reviews about "classic" EVs, many people are interested in them. As well as newer ones of course.

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Ben
Ben

The Soul is seriously underrated! The Soul has a pessimistic range meter in my experience.

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Andrew Joe
Andrew Joe

Your Kia Soul EV 30kWh road trip video got me to buy one. Still love driving it - including on road trips :)

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Jeroen van den Raadt
Jeroen van den Raadt

Perfect video to watch during breakfast 😄👍

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Jeroen van den Raadt
Jeroen van den Raadt

@Geass Sogeki 1 am breakfast, haha. I am from the Netherlands. It was about 7:30 am when this video got uploaded, perfect for during my breakfast.😋

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Geass Sogeki
Geass Sogeki

I was about to say the same... I'm from South America and here is almost 1am Where are you from...?

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AppleTopic
AppleTopic

Cool lol im about to go to sleep but the vid popped up and its almost 12am ...

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AppleTopic
AppleTopic

Helo i am first? Lol im the 3 like waw 🤩🤩🤩

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Reaperguy 67
Reaperguy 67

@AppleTopic did you know that comments like first don't add anything to the discussion of the video. Just my opinion by the way.

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AppleTopic
AppleTopic

Lol thanks

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Ele stra
Ele stra

We are really proud of you ! ;-)

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AppleTopic
AppleTopic

Oh and 1 view

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Sylvain Lamarre
Sylvain Lamarre

Maybe I missed something; at approx 7:40 ''Scan-my-Tesla'' indicated: 71.4kwh nominal full pack; 77.8% full pack when new & 8.23% degradation Your results seems inline with this. Why not trusting the BMS? You also used 73kwh for a full pack new. Is that usable VS the 77.8 kwh? Where do you get the usable value for a new battery?

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John
John

I am looking to buy my first ev. I'm thinking 2016 Nissan leaf or 2016 Kia Soul. The more I look..the more unsure I become. Any thoughts, opinions would be greatly appreciated. I'm in Canada.. so winter driving is a consideration. I have to make a decision soon.

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John
John

I am looking to buy my first ev. I'm thinking 2016 Nissan leaf or 2016 Kia Soul. The more I look..the more unsure I become. Any thoughts, opinions would be greatly appreciated. I have to make a decision soon.

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MrSpuzzz
MrSpuzzz

Bjorn do you think the outside temperature affects how much available capacity the LR model 3 has? I’ve done two tests. First test, outside temp was a little below 0c preheated car for an hour before an uninterrupted drive. I was only able to use 62kwh before being nearly at 0. Was concerned it meant significant degradation. Later I conducted same test at 18c. Was able to use over 70kwh before running out. Really compounds winter range loss....higher consumption and lower available capacity. But my test method may have been poor.

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Sheldon Smalls
Sheldon Smalls

Looks Amazing

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randomgoodnessca
randomgoodnessca

Do you have plans to test the AWD version?

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zaharia adrian
zaharia adrian

You can find the key under the seat, but on top of the right hand rail, console side. It's very dificult to get it from that place, but put the hand in from the back seat. I done the same thing earlier days.

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Ian H
Ian H

10 inch screen is much better UX.

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ZEF
ZEF

I see “regen” is more than double in this car comparing with McHammer. That will suggest a higher degree of city driving with many stop and go -> many small charge discharge cycles. Could that be a factor contributing to battery degradation as well? Cheers, and keep up good work!

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chunsa58
chunsa58

Who puts 5 people in a car and go on a long trip, well, we do, when we take our three children on summer holiday.

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Luis AG
Luis AG

maybe DC charging is not a key factor in degradation.... very interesting, its necessary to test more cars for better conclusions

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Friedemann Gädeke
Friedemann Gädeke

My Model 3 from 2019 has almost the same values, but charged much more DC. Degradation seems to be more related to time and kilometers driven.

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