Do you have the feeling that the current M3LR and M3P cells in 2021 are a step backwards? So in terms of charging power and discharging power.

Crazy ！ Are you Japanese？

Not funny at all👎

I miss that via A Better Road Plans, data on driving on various road sections is automatically collected. Where various factors that affect electricity consumption are automatically taken into account. It will basically also be more credible than a WLTP and you will thus also before you buy an electric car specifically be able to see how big a battery you need based on your driving needs. Google translate DK to ENG :)

Finnish tires💪🏼

With 9 ads, many of which are doubles, I find easier to download the video and to watch it offline. Nobody wins.

why does norwegian sound so much cooler than danish, even though its almost the same language? :)

It would be great if you could compared B and D mode in the ID.3. D mode should be more efficient. Coasting is 100% efficient, no energy is used. Regen is not 100% efficient due to inverter and charging heat losses. The important thing in either mode, is not to use the friction brakes. D mode will require more anticipation, but I guarantee that it will be more efficient. I believe the ideal is to have various regen levels available as with the steering wheel paddles in the Audi e-tron. Apparently Porsche believe coasting is far more efficient in the Taycan. Obviously B mode will have to be used on steep down hill sections to prevent the need for friction braking. The ID.3 also has intelligent regeneration in D mode. It uses the adaptive cruise control radar to engage regeneration automatically when approaching slower vehicles. The ID.3 can also automatically engage regeneration using speed limit and navigation data.

I was thinking WhatsApp is always sponsor but maybe not

While you are using the same amount of power, changing the max value is of no effect, and this is basically the difference between chill and sport mode. On the other side, with the D vs B mode discussion, there are some arguments that could mean that D is more efficient than B, but only if the car regenerates when you press the brake pedal. But I don’t think that the differences are too big and they are heavily dependent on the driving circuit. Regarding your foot temp problem, it seems like your car can’t check the temp roof the air going to the feet, so because of the external temps it goes to full heat the whole time, not only while heating up the cabin. I suppose that there is a faulty sensor in the HVAC unit, but not knowing how many sensors Elon has substituted with software models, it’s to say.

Doesn't matter if it will be canceled or not, the main thing they asked you Björn to participate! We are happy and glad for you! Anothe impression I want to share: looks like pure democracy to put group leaders in Taycan and Mach E )))) And due to no competitors to Taycan (yes, there are no Ravens in Norway))) ) I foresee article in NAF - Taycan is best, Mach E is second, Tesla was broken at the start)))) Please take my comment positively)

Xpeng copy Tesla for the light show

Renault Zoe is missing !

Love this video and you made me laugh, if you had your own sitcom I'd watch it

How dare you dont recognize the first one: Stig!!!

I think this should be the Minimum on journeys a BEV can charge and of course it has to be stable. If you are not always driving too long tours, the Koreans are absolutely okay. For me efficience is more important...

Exact same situation for me: 21°C as target on AUTO, and footwell is way too hot and uncomfortable. (Model 3 LR DM 2019)

I thought the test would be more accurate with the cabin and battery pre heating. It is a feature of the cars that will be used in the real world

Slap some 18s on it

What place is this?? Where is it?

next time you are traveling alone for long distance make sure to take portable generator and fuel for generator. what happened was attaching trailer wo electric car which make more ground resistance and need lot for fulling for which takes more power consumption. it you have calculated that it wouldn't happened.

Buys a £100000 and buys cheap tyres. Lol. Michelin make the best road tyres. I’ve used Chinese branded tyres and the big difference is they are dreadful in the wet, bordering on dangerous. Driving normally in the dry and they are fine, it’s the extreme performance where they are awful, eg ice, wet, fast driving, braking.

Great content! Bjorn. Could you point me out does Mag52 is a local Norwegian Company?? I can't even find their website on the Internet!

Hey... That IS kinda funny!

Cancelled! Sheeet! Sounded really good ...

I really like the time lapse with the star trails and the spherical music!

I know the event's cancelled but I wanted to ask anyone's thoughts on the testing specifics? Especially with regard to preheating and regen. Imo, A real-world test would include these aspects, because that's how people would drive and that's how the car would set itself apart from the competition, right? 🤔 yes, preheating is different in each car, but surely that's what should be tested 😁

Lesson learned: never ever drive Tesla on off road area

Can you do drag race between the old long range and current production?

Hello Friend subtítulos please in spanish the from chile good video

You are the imdustry standard with those numbers💪

When test the xpeng p7 headlight ??

That's a shame, I was hoping the MG5 would have been included in the test.

How can we excess your data sheets that u presented in the video!?

Check video description.

Thank you for the Video. I tested the Taycan 4S for the weekend and had reached a promised possible Range of 470km. 😁👍 I’d drives top and looks good, but my „Paulchen the black Panther“ (I-Pace 😉) looks better inside (in my opinion). 😁🐆🇬🇧

have you done model 3 range test on very cold weather (-20c or more), it would be nice to see how much it loses when its cold. Planning to buy model 3 SR and wondering if range is +300km when full charge and driving 3 hours straight.

Love the time lapses. Stellar photography...as it were.

Tesla=🏳️‍🌈

Can you perhaps explain why it is not good for the battery to charge to 100%?

Absolutely, write the paper and get your metric peer reviewed and published!

HEY

whats better for battery life, more current or more voltage at the same wattage?

defenter vs tesla pls

My I-Pace (2020) made the charging from 10-75% in 38min (with hazard lights on)

due to cancellation, my hope, getting qualified infos about the iX3 - e.g. winter performance.

I think the software UI has a lot of catching up to do. But definitely a step in the right direction

Those 8kW/h increases, I belive, are defrosting mode of the heat pump.

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they should have just said check gps speed using the gps tracker

Why you do not want an electric car!!!

2:14 thank me later

Certain that the post-analysis is going to be more important than the test

Did not see it's just been cancelled ,hope it's been rescheduled

Hello Björn. Wil you also review the E-C4? Keep up the good work 👌🏻

B.J.O.R.N Range test is the only Real test.

Can you add the kia e-niro range values for 120km/h to the spreadsheet? Thanks!

Covid - 1 NAF - 0 Shame but understandable. Incidentally why no Jaguar I-Pace MY21 EV320 or EV400? Wouldn't JLR donate a car, are they worried about very poor range?

The event has been canceled due to very strict lockdown rules applied today due to covid.

That's rubbish. Fingers crossed they run it again later. Still plenty of Winter left

Will they lend you the car anyway? 😉

This is the reason I didn't buy a new Model 3 2020, just Lockdown after Lockdown, can't go anywhere. And is not a good idea anyway. 3. wave could also be coming due to mutation. So waiting for the Berlin Y with 4680 fat cells is a lot easier than I expected. Without a working vaccine, I go nowhere. To my surprise, the news for the Berlin Y get better and better. Price drop, bioweapon defence mode, heated steering wheel, Panasonic supplies the first 4680 cells, so every Y gets those. Just excellent.

Well at least you don’t have to suffer driving the LEAF for a week or so. Look forward to the NAF Summer Test if you are involved.

Aghhhh, but better that you are safe than risking passing infections. Normally it's so easy on your own to be safe but with others there is increased risk. Will the ban on unnecessary travel affect other tests? Would be bad to have limited content, maybe some mukbang or Q and A livestreams instead.

It would be cool if other drivers from Oslo could unofficially join in to double check some of the results. Good luck with the Nissan though. Next time just follow the course with MC Hammer

On NAF-Test you are now "Nissan-Björn". Please show the world that Leaf e+ is a quite good car. Use Leaf Spy to get out max. range. Keep also one eye on Xpeng G3 and Lexus UX 300e. Good luck!

Several owners of a MIC model 3 SR+ in BE/NL report a charging rate below 40KW. That would place it at the bottom of the spreadsheet.

It is best to have a unified testing method, otherwise you can’t compare different cars. But I personally would prefer a 10-80% charging time, as it represents more the normal use case, and you could pinpoint the cars that throttle too early.

I was hoping you would land the Mach-E, oh well.

That's gonna be spectacular, will def-ly watch! 🍿 Ein proper EV Gangbang. 😁

I hope NAF will bring you in to help construct future test that puts all vehicles on an even level. There seems a lot of places for error which will require a lot of post re-calculation and I feel this probably won't be carried out. Alternatively you could maybe conduct your own testing and get it sponsored by various companies.

Last 9 years all VW have understated the coldness while stationary. Like now in northern finland, i drive around, it is steady -15 but immediatelly i park my Polo, it goes to -13 and back to -15 again when driving. While my Mercedes stays at -15 moving or stationary.

Hva med en kolonne som viser «actual speed» som er [rekkevidde 75%] / (tid kjøre 75% + tid lade 75%). Dvs om en kjører i 90, så er farten inkludert lading endel lavere, men viser samtidig hvilken bil som er «raskest» på langkjøring.

However, it is a bit complicated in the way that 1) chargers give half output if it is shared, 2) if the handshake does not work when charging, 3) if the range become lower than expected because of cold whether, 4) charging speed is lower than expected because of cold-gating, 5) range is lower than diesel and you have to calculate you trip, 6) the battery get poor over time, 7) charging speed varies depending on charger, 8) it takes approx. 30 min to charge 80% etc etc.... But I just heard a new type of battery is coming which takes 5 minutes to charge. Then is becomes interesting but not now. This is based on your videos. Or am I wrong?

I did a roadtrip with my 2018 LR RWD Model 3 a few months ago and was able to hit 250kW easily. Data shows I was able to hold 250kW from 8% to 24%. I did charge again recently and was limited to around 166kW. The big difference was ambient temperature. The charging stop a few months ago, ambient temperature was 31C, recently it was -12C. I suspect the car, especially with the single motor, struggles to heat the battery enough prior to charging to allow 250kW charging. In the summer, it's no problem. My car has pretty high mileage too, over 100,000km now.

Yes a Corsa e at last. Do we get to see the final results? Thanks.

There no German EV cars to compare it to. What are you talking about? Give it a rest.

Yeah even more data and numbers for us EV nerds 🤘🚙

YNatæyt

Baustellen und Stau?... yeah, that's Germany alright! ;)

Last year the model 3 LR went out of juice 100 meters before the Kona.

I'm not sure if I'm seeing it correctly but I believe the car used 12000 kWh driving, almost 15000kWh overall. That means average consumption for the 60000km was 200Wh/km or 320Wh/mile. This is way above the expected consumption and it gives the car a range of close to 200 miles, far from 300 miles.

That's total including winter, short trips, etc. For shorter trips in winter, consumption will be high. But it's irrelevant because you have home charger nearby and range is not a problem around town. For long trips, consumption is lower. Real range is in fact 400-500 km.

Sounds a lot of fun 😊

This is cool...er, neat. Muahahaha... Anyway, put the challenge out to Tesla to hold its own AEV Race Day Event; billed as “The Ultimate ‘Smack-Down’ Event Of The Century.” A fully autonomous, electric vehicle race day event. A race on or off a “track,” where there is no speed limit and where the first car across the finish line wins. The ONLY rule is ZERO human intervention from the start gun to the checkered flag - zero! Hell, they could REALLY garner some attention if they did the same thing with Trucks/Semi’s; a SAEV Monster Vehicle Rally Race Day. They could do it with or without trailers attached. And then with trailers carrying various weight class loads. Man, Vegas would blow up with the betting action. Go for it, Elon.

Would be nice to have some information on the BMW IX3 also

For this off road test you would need a car with brighter Tires and higher suspension. All the plastic parts are fragile like glass in cold weather, but this is general issue at most of the commercial cars. You were bit naive and unexperienced. So you learnt now something. Have a good day!

It is interesting to compare the tortoise and hare. The i3 is considered old tech now but compared to some other current cars with smallish battery and for eg 80kW charging it is comparable due to haing a very good charging curve and not throttling much until well over 90% so 75% kind of cuts it off before it's prime in this comparison ;- ) i'm happy with it as i have the 94Ah (33kWh total) and I sometimes struggle to eat lunch in the 35 mins it can charge from 15% to 95% on my regular longer journey lol! certainly for 50kWh batteries then >50kW charging is much more necessary but also a good curve helps - I guess that may depend on battery technology and the amount of buffers the BMS adds, BMW has very large buffers so cuts usable capacity quite a lot (10% or more on my car) where others don't so the perceived throttling may be necessary to reduce battery degradation so i agree miles per hour is a more comparable figure due to those differences in BMS systems etc.

This is a fair comparison because it highlights the shortcomings on old cars like i3 and makes it quite clear that they are behind the competitors. Even if we counted charging speed to 80 or 85 %, i3 would still be slow vs the more modern and faster charging EVs with bigger batteries.

Very exciting test Why not use App Relive to measure speed and altitude meters? This could be combined with google maps which can show speed (via gps) so that EVERYONE runs at the same speed. It is basically a problem if not all cars are measured using the same method. This also applies to temp in car (heat supply) Hope the test will be somewhat recurring and with more cars of the same model we saw before as valid live data as possible Flemming from Denmark